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	<title>Comments on: History and Struggle</title>
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	<description>faults &#124; sins &#124; abuses</description>
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		<title>By: blogal villager</title>
		<link>http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2003/07/24/history-and-struggle/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>blogal villager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting discussion, thanks for sharing it: I'm writing a piece for KairosNews on the Web as a space for writing that makes use of Negri and Hardt's notion of "immaterial labor." You might be interested in Negri's essay &lt;a href="http://www.blogalization.info/conspiracy/KairosAlmaVenusMultitudo"&gt;Kairos, Alma Venus, Multitudo&lt;/a&gt;. Also, Paolo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed on overcoming class division in the teacher-student relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting discussion, thanks for sharing it: I&#8217;m writing a piece for KairosNews on the Web as a space for writing that makes use of Negri and Hardt&#8217;s notion of &#8220;immaterial labor.&#8221; You might be interested in Negri&#8217;s essay <a href="http://www.blogalization.info/conspiracy/KairosAlmaVenusMultitudo">Kairos, Alma Venus, Multitudo</a>. Also, Paolo Freire&#8217;s Pedagogy of the Oppressed on overcoming class division in the teacher-student relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2003/07/24/history-and-struggle/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to economic power and category identification, isn't a fundamental key to today's "hi-tech laborer's insecurity" commodification?  At one point blue-collar labor was merely a fungible, something one could add or remove like any other bulk component (Add x number of hours to WIP to calculate finished widgets); now, knowledge workers are commodified, little more than numbers (Add X number of developers to Y number of projects and products to get Z yield or ROI over T time).  Further, the educational process which creates these new commodities is a commodity itself; one can shop around for education, but education is becoming increasingly undifferentiated, more similar from place of certification to place of certification.  Education adds value to a human fungible, but it's still a human commodity, a swappable head.  Much of social life reinforces the level of commodification as well (ex: a project manager who's never traveled for personal reasons is a slightly less valuable commodity as s/he will need greater resources to become successful at business travel).

As I see it from my rather naive point of view, class stratification is based on commodity/ differentiated commodity/ non-commodity/ differentiated non-commodity.  (I know I certainly feel like a white-collar differentiated commodity, just another prairie dog to add to the cube farm.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to economic power and category identification, isn&#8217;t a fundamental key to today&#8217;s &#8220;hi-tech laborer&#8217;s insecurity&#8221; commodification?  At one point blue-collar labor was merely a fungible, something one could add or remove like any other bulk component (Add x number of hours to WIP to calculate finished widgets); now, knowledge workers are commodified, little more than numbers (Add X number of developers to Y number of projects and products to get Z yield or ROI over T time).  Further, the educational process which creates these new commodities is a commodity itself; one can shop around for education, but education is becoming increasingly undifferentiated, more similar from place of certification to place of certification.  Education adds value to a human fungible, but it&#8217;s still a human commodity, a swappable head.  Much of social life reinforces the level of commodification as well (ex: a project manager who&#8217;s never traveled for personal reasons is a slightly less valuable commodity as s/he will need greater resources to become successful at business travel).</p>
<p>As I see it from my rather naive point of view, class stratification is based on commodity/ differentiated commodity/ non-commodity/ differentiated non-commodity.  (I know I certainly feel like a white-collar differentiated commodity, just another prairie dog to add to the cube farm.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2003/07/24/history-and-struggle/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Villager, thanks for the references. I'm familiar, as many compositionists are, with Freire; as appealing as his work is, and as informed as I consider my own pedagogy to be by composition's version of critical pedagogy (you might check out the huge swipe taken against critical pedagogy in Sharon O'Dair's &lt;a href="http://www.ncte.org/pdfs/subscribers-only/ce/0656-july03/CE0656Class.pdf"&gt;recent College English essay&lt;/a&gt; [PDF link]), the frequently-acknowledged fact of the matter (by Freire and others) is that there are many elements of his pedagogy that simply &lt;em&gt;cannot&lt;/em&gt; transfer to the American university. I'll definitely check out the Hardt and Negri -- thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Villager, thanks for the references. I&#8217;m familiar, as many compositionists are, with Freire; as appealing as his work is, and as informed as I consider my own pedagogy to be by composition&#8217;s version of critical pedagogy (you might check out the huge swipe taken against critical pedagogy in Sharon O&#8217;Dair&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ncte.org/pdfs/subscribers-only/ce/0656-july03/CE0656Class.pdf">recent College English essay</a> [PDF link]), the frequently-acknowledged fact of the matter (by Freire and others) is that there are many elements of his pedagogy that simply <em>cannot</em> transfer to the American university. I&#8217;ll definitely check out the Hardt and Negri &#8212; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtiss Leung</title>
		<link>http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2003/07/24/history-and-struggle/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtiss Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question about stock ownership as a mitigating (or mediating?) factor for people who otherwise work for their livings is a good one, although I think that actual facts of stock compensation for those who aren't members of senior management have been obscured.

Warning: Anecdotal Evidence and arguments from impressions ahead!

In my experience, out and out stock grants as compensation are extremely rare.&#160;Option grants are much more common, and these are given as part of bonus, i.e., year-end discretionary compensation.&#160;Furthermore, the options are not tradable, although their expiration date may be much greater than tradable options--perhaps as much as 5 or 10 years &lt;b&gt;if you stay with the company&lt;/b&gt;.&#160;Even so, that much time may not make up for options with a bad strike price: a friend who was working for a small software firm in the midwest that was bought by Cisco received what seemed like a generous option grant after his first year with Cisco.&#160;The exercise price was Cisco's current price, and based on the way Cisco had been going up, up, up, he figured he'd have a hefty downpayment on a nice house in about two years.

He received the grant in early '00; the strike price was in the 60s.&#160;You can see what happened to his house downpayment &lt;a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CSCO&#038;d=c&#038;k=c1&#038;a=v&#038;p=s&#038;t=5y&#038;l=on&#038;z=m&#038;q=l"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&#160;

On the other hand, you have somebody like Larry Ellison of Oracle, who seems to be &lt;a href="http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/special_packages/salary_survey/3428776.htm"&gt;manipulating his company's stock price&lt;/a&gt; to allow him to exercise his option grants in his favor.&#160;To be fair to Ellison (the pain! the pain!), many other firms regularly buy back their own stock or perform similar market operations to support share prices.&#160;I remember (but can't find) a story of Ellison having the strike price of an option grant changed so he could exercise it in his favor.&#160;Nice work if you can get it.

One has--or at least I have--an intuitive sense that this is chicanery and should not be allowed.&#160;But it's surplus value extraction only indirectly, if it all.&#160;Still it shows that senior management can make claims on their firms revenues--the the securitizations thereof-- that those further down the org chart can't.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question about stock ownership as a mitigating (or mediating?) factor for people who otherwise work for their livings is a good one, although I think that actual facts of stock compensation for those who aren&#8217;t members of senior management have been obscured.</p>
<p>Warning: Anecdotal Evidence and arguments from impressions ahead!</p>
<p>In my experience, out and out stock grants as compensation are extremely rare.&nbsp;Option grants are much more common, and these are given as part of bonus, i.e., year-end discretionary compensation.&nbsp;Furthermore, the options are not tradable, although their expiration date may be much greater than tradable options&#8211;perhaps as much as 5 or 10 years <b>if you stay with the company</b>.&nbsp;Even so, that much time may not make up for options with a bad strike price: a friend who was working for a small software firm in the midwest that was bought by Cisco received what seemed like a generous option grant after his first year with Cisco.&nbsp;The exercise price was Cisco&#8217;s current price, and based on the way Cisco had been going up, up, up, he figured he&#8217;d have a hefty downpayment on a nice house in about two years.</p>
<p>He received the grant in early &#8216;00; the strike price was in the 60s.&nbsp;You can see what happened to his house downpayment <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CSCO&#038;d=c&#038;k=c1&#038;a=v&#038;p=s&#038;t=5y&#038;l=on&#038;z=m&#038;q=l">here.</a>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the other hand, you have somebody like Larry Ellison of Oracle, who seems to be <a href="http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/special_packages/salary_survey/3428776.htm">manipulating his company&#8217;s stock price</a> to allow him to exercise his option grants in his favor.&nbsp;To be fair to Ellison (the pain! the pain!), many other firms regularly buy back their own stock or perform similar market operations to support share prices.&nbsp;I remember (but can&#8217;t find) a story of Ellison having the strike price of an option grant changed so he could exercise it in his favor.&nbsp;Nice work if you can get it.</p>
<p>One has&#8211;or at least I have&#8211;an intuitive sense that this is chicanery and should not be allowed.&nbsp;But it&#8217;s surplus value extraction only indirectly, if it all.&nbsp;Still it shows that senior management can make claims on their firms revenues&#8211;the the securitizations thereof&#8211; that those further down the org chart can&#8217;t.</p>
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