Comments on: Ethics and Surveillance http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2004/06/15/ethics-and-surveillance/ faults | sins | abuses Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:03:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Gerry http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2004/06/15/ethics-and-surveillance/#comment-683 Gerry Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/archives/2004/06/15/ethics-and-surveillance/#comment-683 Great stuff, thanks. This is a conversation that should be spread much more widely. Surveilance is one of the tools of the Disciplinary Society to attempt to produce mindless drones out out people. The truth is that it is counterproductive. Creativity and innovation happen in those unmeasured spaces between the countable things. I know a lot of software development managers who would love to try it, but you can't build a successful software development team on threats and intimidation. If your team is good they know more about the systems being used than the people who sell them anyway. Surveilance works about as well on cats as programmers. You can never quite pin them down unless you actually understand what they are working on yourself, and few managers do. Great stuff, thanks. This is a conversation that should be spread much more widely. Surveilance is one of the tools of the Disciplinary Society to attempt to produce mindless drones out out people.

The truth is that it is counterproductive. Creativity and innovation happen in those unmeasured spaces between the countable things. I know a lot of software development managers who would love to try it, but you can’t build a successful software development team on threats and intimidation. If your team is good they know more about the systems being used than the people who sell them anyway.

Surveilance works about as well on cats as programmers. You can never quite pin them down unless you actually understand what they are working on yourself, and few managers do.

]]> By: Mike http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/2004/06/15/ethics-and-surveillance/#comment-684 Mike Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.vitia.org/wordpress/archives/2004/06/15/ethics-and-surveillance/#comment-684 Thanks, Gerry. I was really interested by your notes on <em>Empire</em>; what was your take on Hardt & Negri's ideas about bio-power, surveillance, and the production of subjectivities, particularly in the way they were trying to update Foucault? I'm not quite so sure it's either one way or the other: I think Foucault showed that surveillance <em>does</em> work in deeply troubling ways. (I wrote a little bit about Hardt & Negri in the second part of <a href="http://www.vitia.org/weblog/archives/000356.html">this essay</a>.) Thanks, Gerry. I was really interested by your notes on Empire; what was your take on Hardt & Negri’s ideas about bio-power, surveillance, and the production of subjectivities, particularly in the way they were trying to update Foucault? I’m not quite so sure it’s either one way or the other: I think Foucault showed that surveillance does work in deeply troubling ways. (I wrote a little bit about Hardt & Negri in the second part of this essay.)

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